Whitaker used to try to ‘poison the well’ re Ferguson…ef reply…

Unfortunately, Greg seems to have fallen prey to the fallacy of false alternatives.

Also, imo, the ‘poisoning of the well’ was done when the ‘nameless witness’ that later was revealed to be Whitaker was forced onto the JFK research community when those doing this had ample documentation available to them that demonstrated his statements were false.  No one bothered to pony up a single bit of documentation connecting him to the limo in any way.

It is my thinking that this campaign has gone on unchecked in order to ‘poison the well’ against the man who wrote the memo that NARA sent to me by mistake, Vaughn Ferguson.  There is documentation connecting him to the limo in the days following the assassination.  He was the one who took possession of some of the bloody back seat leather.  There are photos of him with the limo.

My logic is this — fool me once shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

From my standpoint on the limousine, Horne has driven himself into the pothole that the lies about Whitaker represent.  That is his choice.  But as long as he or anyone is maintaining a false position on a major issue in the assassination it is unrealistic not to anticipate that they will fall into potholes in other areas of their research.

Another reply…Greg just doesn’t seem to get it…:-0

Speak for yourself, Greg.  That was not my intent.

You pointed out a fallacy by using a fallacy.  That is what I pointed out.  I don’t think your position has merit as a result.

At least we agree that everyone should read all that is available and decide for themselves what to think.  I am attempting to provide definition for anyone who chooses to ask questions about the limo issue that I think causes us to have to ask questions about Horne’s credibility on every other issue.

Curious that you seem to have complimented me on ‘bumping’ Doug’s article while failing to pony up a single bit of objective documentation connecting the ‘nameless witness’ to the limo, which is the focus of my criticism.

Greg also seems to be forgetting my position, which is not to tell people what to think, but to give them all the information available and ask that they think things through for themselves.

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MB2B — Ed Forum reply…

Thank you for your kind words.  My research philosophy is quite simple — I don’t ask that anyone ‘believe’ or ‘disbelieve’ what I say, but weigh and evaluate the information I am bringing forward and then decide for yourself what to think.  As the limo is at the center of the assassination, there are probably more wacky theories involving it than any other area of research, so I feel I speak from a position of experience.

It is tough for me to watch researchers who have honest intent fall into potholes regarding the limo.  The most insidious of these is a need for a t+t bullet hole in the windshield in order for there to be a conspiracy.  Once someone falls into that pothole, they may never be able to climb out.  That said, I hope I am providing a timeline of documentation for what I believe happened to SS100X after the assassination that will provide a reference point for anyone wishing to dig deeper or move forward.

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Examination of the Presidential Limousine in the White House Garage

JFK Limo — Examination in the White House Garage

My 1999 NID presentation, on the Mary Farrell website…including my first interview with Robert Frazier, who led the FBI team in the forensic exam.  Also the first dating of the White House bulky b+w interior photos of the limo, which Frazier said were taken during the exam.  I asked NARA to add the date to these undated photos, but they declined.

Ellis and Dudman, Parkland Hospital witnesses, mention different locations for the hole they thought they saw…aaj reply

Dudman’s statement is in ASSASSINATION SCIENCE, p. 166. He said the hole was “HIGH up in the left corner of the windshield.”

Stavis Ellis’s statement was in NO MORE SILENCE, p. 147. “To the right of where the driver was, just above the metal near the BOTTOM of the glass there appeared to be a bullet hole.”

Pamela Brown
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