MB2B — Ed Forum reply…

Thank you for your kind words.  My research philosophy is quite simple — I don’t ask that anyone ‘believe’ or ‘disbelieve’ what I say, but weigh and evaluate the information I am bringing forward and then decide for yourself what to think.  As the limo is at the center of the assassination, there are probably more wacky theories involving it than any other area of research, so I feel I speak from a position of experience.

It is tough for me to watch researchers who have honest intent fall into potholes regarding the limo.  The most insidious of these is a need for a t+t bullet hole in the windshield in order for there to be a conspiracy.  Once someone falls into that pothole, they may never be able to climb out.  That said, I hope I am providing a timeline of documentation for what I believe happened to SS100X after the assassination that will provide a reference point for anyone wishing to dig deeper or move forward.


Examination of the Presidential Limousine in the White House Garage

JFK Limo — Examination in the White House Garage

My 1999 NID presentation, on the Mary Farrell website…including my first interview with Robert Frazier, who led the FBI team in the forensic exam.  Also the first dating of the White House bulky b+w interior photos of the limo, which Frazier said were taken during the exam.  I asked NARA to add the date to these undated photos, but they declined.

Ellis and Dudman, Parkland Hospital witnesses, mention different locations for the hole they thought they saw…aaj reply

Dudman’s statement is in ASSASSINATION SCIENCE, p. 166. He said the hole was “HIGH up in the left corner of the windshield.”

Stavis Ellis’s statement was in NO MORE SILENCE, p. 147. “To the right of where the driver was, just above the metal near the BOTTOM of the glass there appeared to be a bullet hole.”

Pamela Brown

Additional damage to the windshield and/or the rear-view mirror of SS100X? aaj reply

CE 350 At Anthony Marsh’s site

I also have to take into consideration the fact that when I asked Robert Frazier if he had seen damage to the r-v mirror he said “unknown.” He and his team did find the damage to the chrome molding in CE 349, so they were observant, at least to some degree. But I don’t rule out the possibility of damage because Frazier did not mention it either. As Anthony says, it could have been ‘overlooked’. If so, it would be a serious error imo.

Another potential witness to any r-v mirror damage would have been Vaughn Ferguson. He didn’t mention anything either, in any documentation that I have at this point. But Ferguson didn’t mention the dent in the chrome molding in his memo either. Ferguson was not doing a forensic exam, just trying to get the limo back into working condition.

It is my belief that there was additional pockmarking to the windshield than what has been documented. Frazier said they added no flood lights during the FBI exam, and, as we can see from the photos, the WHG was pretty dark.

James Hosty mentioned additional pockmarking in his book AO, so I asked him about it. He tried to back off and change the subject, which led me to think I was moving in the right direction.

I have attempted to view the windshield CE351 at NARA II three different times. The last attempt was with the DC crew for ITTC. I thought for sure they would let us view it with a forensic glass expert, but that was not to be. At least we still have the windshield; there is no record of what happened to the r-v mirror.

So my position is to definitely leave a door open for additional damage to the windshield and windshield area, especially the r-v mirror which Anthony has noted. We just need a higher level of documentation to make the assertions really persuasive, imo.